Surviving Vig?

SURVIVING VIGI’ve made it no secret that I, as an anime convention attendee and sometimes volunteer since 2004, am on the side of the alleged victims of Vic Mignogna. I am also a friend of Marzgurl who started the #Kickvic hashtag. I have also been at conventions that Vic Mignogna has been at, as well as even volunteering at one that was run by a friend of mine that had Vic once, that was mispronounced/mentioned in Vic Mignogna’s deposition. I believe in ethics in um… uh… Anime Industry… News? Propoganda? Whatever.

surviving vig2My friend, Marzgurl, mentioned that watching the Lifetime show “Surviving R. Kelly” season 2 episode 1 reminded her of #KickVic, and how victims who speak up are often harassed.

Because of this, I have spoofed three images that were used to promote Surviving R. Kelly, with Vic Mignogna. I’ve mispelled his name as Vig in them, to help show that they are in parody, but also to make fun of a convention that misspelled his name in an advertisement.

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When #KickVic started, a friend of mine noted that one of the pictures used in an article looked like it had been photo-shopped to make him look like one of the bad husbands/boyfriends from one of those cliche Lifetime movies. That also might have played into wanting to make these parodies, I suppose?

Anyways, I hope someone gets a kick out of these. Anyways, these were done in parody based on a tweet. That’s all.

Good Friday, 2019!

After failing at mediation, Tarrant County State District Judge John Chupp dismissed what claims were left from Vic Mignogna’s case against voice actresses and anime company Funimation. Below is the tweet from Dallas News columnist 

For transparency, I have a personal connection to this case as I am friends with the creator of the hashtag movement that helped start all of this, as well as someone who has worked anime conventions for years, including one that even had Vic Mignogna at it and was brought up in Vic Mignogna’s deposition. Also, I have proudly traveled twitter on the good ship known as the USS Threadnaught, under north Carolina’s T. Greg Doucette Esq.

Vic_MignognaYou can read the Judges order to dismiss here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/9d6k0nwxp6bzfzh/2019-10-04%20-%20Order%20Dismissing%20All%20Claims.pdf?dl=0

Fuck Vic Mignogna… Fuck Ty Beard… but most of all? Fuck Minnesota lawyer and wannabe jounalist Nick Rekieta for helping tear a huge divide between the anime going community, by convincing Vic bo-tox Chad Mignogna that this LOLsuit was a great MILLION DOLLAR idea. I really hope that the Minnesota schock jock faux lawsplainer chokes on all of the ad revenue he’s made off of Vic’s case.

So here’s to all of the appeals that Nick and Ty are going to try and convince Vic’s fans are a shoe-in for them to win over the next 6, 12, or 24 months?

Whatever… this is a good Friday for us to celebrate.

Judge Chupp is tired of #ISTANDWITHVIC’s bullshit.

Vic Mignogna’s fans might have, at one time, been his best asset. They would beg conventions to let Vic come back whenever there was even a hint that he could be banned from a con, and hey… his fans would then go to the convention.

In fact, he’d even whip them into a frenzy and have them post good encounters with the VA. So people who complained about his inappropriate behavior, and fans would then find the tweet or whatever and go “Vic can’t be bad! He’s a Christian who used to be a cop and he told us how he got stabbed by someone!”

Well… with this whole lawsuit against voice actresses, a husband, and Funimation has reached a new level of wtf. Journalist Sharon Grigsby shared this on twitter:

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/2019/09/17/latest-in-anime-s-metoo-moment-tarrant-county-judge-orders-mediation-and-shares-threats-of-violence-in-vic-mignogna-lawsuit/

Apparently fans attacking and threatening a judge online does nothing for your defamation case. Now the case has been ordered into mediation, and if there is no settlement by October 3rd, Judge Chupp will rule that very next day. In short… #ISTANDWITHVIC Nick Rekie… Ricka… err… Screech.  Judge Chupp is tired of your bullshit.

anime austin conventionI recently went to Anime Austin 2019, and well… I’m done. The first convention I ever went to was Oni-Con in 2004. for years, I was haunted by the fact that I lost the convention badge from my first convention. Now, I find that laughable, considering the last few I haven’t even cared to preserve.

While I will have a further retrospective on the last… fifteen? I seriously spent more time going to conventions than I did from Elementary to High School?! *sigh*

Anyways, so here are a bunch of random photos that I took, or had taken for me with my camera… and yeah… A lot of fun stuff there.

I hope everyone is having a happy great Throwback Thursday!

I don’t get things…

Vic_MignognaSo, I get why #KickVic and #IStandWithVic started… I do. What I don’t understand is the idea of Vic Mignogna potentially suing people. So… the worst thing that people could be sued for is alleging that he tried to have sex with people, and failed despite trying multiple times? I mean… there is no way to prove if things were or weren’t consensual. How can anyone prove or disprove someone else’s thoughts and feelings?

Bulma hands up.pngNow Anime News Network, if they published unverified false things or edited photos misrepresenting who they were in, then that definitely makes sense, right?

Rooster Teeth, however? I guess if there was a breach of contract? The timing of their tweet?

Funimation? Once again, maybe breach of contract. Possibly defamation due to the timing of the tweets? Improperly conducting a biased investigation? I guess, but is that actually illegal? Maybe?  I just… don’t know?

Marzgurl, who created the hashtag? She can argue that she did not start the conversation, but she was just continuing someone else’s. She did tweet at Funimation attacking Vic’s character, saying there was years of sexual misconduct… but Vic apologized for kissing people who didn’t want to be greeted that way, as well as the actresses he invited to his room who claimed that Vic had performed sexual misconduct. Misconduct’s definition btw is: unacceptable or improper behavior, especially by an employee or professional person. Rubbing the thighs of a co-worker on a business together certainly seems to qualify as that…

Voice actresses who have come out with their stories, some of which were published by io9? The worst that he has been accused of by these women is being awkwardly embraced and kissed while they themselves admit to not always saying no at the time, as well as other ones that claim that he tried to have sex with them, failed to convince them even after running his hands on places of their body as they were saying “no.” Vic as backed up a lot of these women’s claims already, but argued that his advances that ended in not having sex with them were actually consensual encounters.

Broly vegita.jpgThe many people that Vic probably does not even remember all of, some he admits that they possibly did not want to be kissed, some of which might have even been under age? Yeah… good luck having a career in the anime industry after that. I’m sure conventions will be lining up to have you as a guest.

Is he going to sue the conventions who dropped him? The worst is Pensacon who threatened to arrest Vic supporters at their convention? They supposedly received a bomb threat that the FBI is investigating.

roshi creepyThe woman who said that in the 80’s, Vic took her home and tried to have sex with her when she was a teenager? Yeah. You can definitely be sued over that accusation. She might be able to get his roommate to talk about it, there might be an old diary to back some of that up… but do I see Vic really taking this one on when most people aren’t even talking about it? No clue.

Now, people can be sued for anything, and I’m sure a lawyer will come up with arguments that these type of things are worth suing… I’m just a little confused.

#Kickvic≤Anime Gate

ushicon4SeanPeople have been clamoring that there is an Anime Gate going on, and that taking down the popular voice actor, Vic… Mig…nawn… Vic. Taking down Vic was a huge part of this. My argument is Anime Gate is much older than #KickVic, and is much broader. Let’s start at the beginning.

Signs at conventions asking for hugs/kisses, people taking pictures with cosplayers with their hand on their boob/butt, hyped up youngsters running at people full speed for a glomp, etc… Anime Convention goers have always been debaucherous, and there has always been this awkward excited energy to anime conventions… and a lot of us finally grew up and it became more okay to say ‘This! This! I don’t like THIS!’

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2014’s Cosplay is Not Consent is where Anime Gate really started from. Then we have the whole Momokun situation where a cosplay guest was being all handsy and gropish with other attendees. People complained and conventions restricted her appearances but lately it’s as if people forgot about her.

In between, we’ve had the whole Anime Matsuri situation, where John Leigh of Anime Matsuri had lolita guests claiming that he had harassed them both online and in-person.

Vic Mignogna has had allegations whispered at conventions since I’ve been going to them in 2004 that I have personally heard of. Women claiming that Vic is creepy, that conventions were going to stop having him as a guest, etc.

Vic_MignognaThere is a spreadsheet going around of accused abusers from anime conventions. Right around this time, #KickVic started. Something like #KickVic was almost destined to come up in this post #Metoo world. The allegations against Vic Mignogna aren’t that bad even, for the most part. Too huggy and kissy on women/girls of questionable ages for way too long of a time. That sums up this whole Vic thing, in a nut shell.

‘This! This! I don’t like THIS!’

While convention behavior between guest and attendee, cosplayer and attendee, and even guest and convention volunteers once you factor in Vic’s alleged behavior towards staff when he doesn’t get his way, is only half of what could be considered an Anime Gate.

teen-titans-goYou then have Westerners trying to re-make anime in their own image, what with Crunchy Roll allegedly misappropriating funds to make High Guardian Spice, Steven Universes nods to video games and anime, Crunchy Roll ignoring the popular Goblin Slayer for it’s yearly awards because it’s content is problematic, Netflix’s She-Ra, and the countless ‘Ameria-manga’ cartoon and comic art styles that have come before all of this.

chibimoonThe real Anime Gate might just be the fact that a lot of the 2nd generation of Anime fans who were 90’s kids finally grew up and took off the rose tented glasses, and said enough was enough on social media… where they were finally heard.

But hey… that’s just a theory… an Anime Gate theory!

The Vic Mignogna situation…

Vic_MignognaThis whole… #kickvic and #IStandWithVic situation is… *sigh* upsetting to everyone, involved or not. Basically, for years, people alleged that voice actor Vic Mignogna was an inappropriate guest at anime conventions.

People have been hitting twitter, myself as an anime convention goer since 2004 included, and yeah… we have all been pretty bad to each other.

He admits to hugging and kissing people who may not have wanted it because he’s lazy. Some of those people were under age possibly, so couldn’t have consented. I get that kissing people on the cheek can be a greeting, but it’s unusual for a man Vic’s age with women who might be too young to consent… especially because they are… you know… strangers, and he represents the shows that he works for.

marzgurlFull disclosure, the woman who coined the #KickVic hashtag, but did not start the discussion over Vic Mignogna, Kaylyn Saucedo A.K.A. Marzgurl, was a friend of mine who I used to go to anime conventions with in Texas, lived next to for roughly 6 months, and I even traveled to Japan with her in 2010.

Vic Mignogna was a guest in 2012 at Louisianime, a convention one of my friends runs that I often volunteer for. I was given the opportunity to eat with the guests, but after learning that Vic would be there, I declined because Vic Mignogna has always weirded me out… only partially due to the allegations I had heard whispers of in person at conventions.

Vic was let go from Rooster Teeth and Funimation.

The worst allegations were that in the late 80’s he was a teacher that tried to have sex, but failed, with an underage high school girl he invited over to his place. At a convention , a woman who was underage, was in an elevator and Vic supposedly put his hand down her dress. Three voice actresses have backed up claims, including Bulma’s voice actress Monica Rial and Vegita and Goku’s voice actors have back up Monica.

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Vic Mignogna, once again, has apologized for maybe hugging and kissing people without consent out of laziness. In another apology he says that he’s course correcting, recommitting to God, and seeking the help of a counselor. He then told everyone on both sides to not hatefully target people.

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Monica Rial has been talking to a lawyer, and supposedly Vic Mignogna has also sought one as well. A lawyer unrelated, but bias towards Vic is going to start a fund for him. In his youtube video, he says tactically Vic should go after Marzgurl, Rooster Teeth, Funimation, Monica Rial, etc… and as someone who knows Marzgurl, I find that worrying.

Edward Elric Fullmetal AlchemistI am not a lawyer, nor do I know a lot about law… but this whole thing is weird for me. From both sides making things up, such as Anime News Network blurring a photo in an article of someone to make things look worse, the girl in the photo saying it was out of context but then sharing a different picture that was taken either before or after to prove it (which is weird). #IStandWithVic allegedly fabricating screen shots of a Facebook Group plotting to make fake photoshop images, someone supposedly supporting #KickVic faking a swatting… Pensacon threatening to have attendees arrested if people go to Monica’s panels showing support for Vic… things are crazy.

All of that, and I haven’t even touched his fan club that literally worship him, and hunt down anyone that talks poorly about Vic who he told to do whatever they could to help him

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Todd and Vic 2012 LouisianimeUltimately, we do not know everything, and never will. I thought that no one personally involved would want this to go to court, but that seems to not be the case anymore. Vic’s career is, at this moment, over… but what are my thoughts.

I was tired of hearing people talk badly about Vic for over a decade. The man is a wild card, and you can never tell with him how he’s going to act. He’s… eccentric, vain, and has always come off weird when I see him at conventions.

I just didn’t want him at conventions anymore, and I assumed that was what most people wanted. I suppose Marzgurl wanted him out of anime all together, but that’s conjecture? Is it wrong to stand up and say, “This bro’s just creepy… what with how he interacts with younger fans? Can we not have him at conventions anymore?”